George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D.

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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:35:26 -0600 (MDT)
To: add-holistic@mLists.net
From: mgold@tiac.net
Subject: ADD Visiting Expert Introduction

Our expert for the next week is "Dr. Von", George von Hilsheimer, whose Ph.D. was earned at the Saybrook Institute. He is the author of Allergy, Toxins and the LD Child (which will be available at his new website next week!) previously published by Academic Therapy; he is also the author of How To Live With Your Special Child, Acropolis Books, 1968, alas, out of print; and Is There A Science of Behavior, Humanitas Press, 1966 (which he says you may obtain by sending a mere $2.50 postage to 125 S. Swoope Ave, #109; his book, Brief Therapy is published at www.eegspectrum.com/books/vonh available as shareware for $5.00 and will soon be available on his own not yet open website.

"Dr. Von" is listed in Who's Who (and in the specialty issues, WW in Medicine, and WW in Science and Engineering). Dr. Von is most famous for having run the world reknown Summerlane School in North Branch, New York; and the Green Valley School in Orange City, Florida, and for People, Inc., an international social service organization sponsored by The Realist magazine in the '60s.

Please join me in welcoming Dr. Von to the group to share his decades of knowledge and expertise! [Clap, clap, clap!] Dr. Von's opening post will be sent on Monday. Stay tuned!

Best Wishes,
- Mark
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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:10:15 -0600 (MDT)
To: add-holistic@mLists.net
From: drvonh@mindspring.com
Subject: ADD Opening post from Visiting Expert Dr. Von

Barbara Pyne asked me to tell you what it is I do which seems to work so well with children. She especially wanted me to tell you what was it that worked so well with her ADHD stepson, Brandon, several years ago.

ADHD KIDS ARE DIFFERENT
First you ought to know that many observers of children for many years have reported that ADHD children have more barely noticeable physical oddities than children who don't have ADHD. If you want to know about these minor physical anomalies (MPA) then look for ALLERGY, TOXINS AND THE LEARNING DISABLED CHILD, which is on the same website where you found this article.

MOST ADHD KIDS ARE ALLERGIC
Some of the ways in which ADHD kids differ are that they are more often fairest of the fair, and blonde blonde. This is not to say that all blonde fair folk are ADHD. In fact, I first heard this observation from Ed Binkley, M.D. talking about allergic kids. All of the the physical anomalies which are more often seen in ADHD kids, are also more often seen in allergic kids. In fact, most ADHD kids are allergic, but most allergic kids are not ADHD.

Do these physical markers mean that ADHD is inherited? No! Not at all. These markers are a function of stress before, during, and after pregnancy. The stress is usually nutritional, but good old shake-rattle- and-roll social stress will do the job as well. Mommies of ADHD children were stressed out, poorly nourished and often were not happy.

It does mean that the meat your child is made of isn't as efficient as the meat out of which a less stressed child is made.

So your first and best tool for working with your ADHD child is a large spiral notebook, and a good pencil. Yep! Notebook and pencil.

You can't do the best job with an allergic child, or with an ADHD child unless you keep a daily journal, continually charting the child's behavior. Since 4 of 5 ADHD children are boys I'm going to start saying "he", "him" and "his" but none of these bits of advise are any different for little girls.

A child may pass formal allegy tests over and over again, and still prove, by commonsense exposures and challenges to be allergic to foods and substances which sneak past the formal medical test. Never forget, you want to help your child, not a test.

If you chart his behavior you can begin to pick up patterns of misbehavior which follow eating certain foods, occuring in patterns (like just before meals), or in certain places (school isn't always horrible just because of bad teachers, sometimes its a toxic waste dump).

The daily chart of behavior which records every place your child goes and every food that he eats, and every unusual thing which occurs, as well as his behavior is the basic tool for helping your child. Be faithful.

LOW BLOOD SUGAR
A few days ago I received a nice email from my nephew's wife. I had been presumptious and send a letter "I know you didn't consult me but I could not but notice Jerry's (not his real name) behavior when we were all together for Father's Day."

What I had noticed was that they were having a very hard time while he was being a spectacular brat. Of course, he is a fair, sandy haired boy with big circles under his eyes. Dr. Tintera, 40 or 50 years ago remarked that people who suffer from low blood sugar are often fairest of the fair and have big dark circles under their eyes. Ed Binkley remarked these same facts in allergic children. You'll find a whole bibliography of folk who have found these and other anomalies in ADHD children.

When we started dinner Jerry was a monster, but by the time we finished he was a fairly nice kid, and he remained so until they left. I suggested that they feed Jerry food every two hours, no matter what. And, when he starts getting cranky, stick some food into his mouth. Mamma wrote me back that I was Doctor Wonderful, regular snacks worked better than the Ritalin and he had stopped having his seizures.

Most ADHD kids are out of fuel within 4 hours of eating, and need to be fed more often. Many small meals.

Of course, ADHD kids should have diets which are primarily free of any food forbidden to a diabetic.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MAGIC?
Ok! Ok! I just wanted to be certain that you knew that almost all ADHD kids have biological problems and that you must take care of these problems and that will make the magic even better.

Barbara brought her step-son to me a few years ago - she was being step-mom to three and mom to a new baby girl, and Mr. Brandon was swinging from the trees. Whew!

For forty separate sessions Barbara came in with Brandon and we took a thick mousse, dabbed it into a tiny gold plated cup, and fixed it to Brandon's scalp. I draw a line from one ear hole to the other, and 1/3 of the way up goes one cup (the spot is known as C-3 on the left, and its twin is C-4 on the right). A clip goes on his ear and holds some mousse in two cups against his skin, this is the ground wire.

One computer screen shows Brandon some games - Pac Man, a skipping stone with boxes, a boat fleeing a volcano, and a road across a desert where you can get a space ship to fly over you. When Brandon's brain makes stronger "sit still and pay attention" signals, than "fogg out and be a jitterbug" signals then Pac Man goes forward.

In the meantime, I'm sitting back at a second computer, which is also working on Brandon's brain signals. I can see in great detail what is going on in his brain. I adjust the task so it is always just within his capacity. He hits the target 75-85% of the time, and the "fogg" steals points only about 15% of the time. I stay alert and work fairly hard to be certain that his success level is high enough to encourage fast learning.

Notice that I said 'learning'. Unlike medicine we don't burn, slash or poison. We simply let the brain know "THAT'S IT! THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO DO! And train it to work happily. This is not treatment.

Barry Sterman, a California psychologist, is still a young man (by my standards!) and he was the first to show us how to do this. Dr. Sterman had been asked to study the problem of perfectly healthy pilots flying perfectly good planes into the ground. Well, he figured it was better to risk cat's than more pilots and so he did the work with cats.

By accident Dr. Sterman discovered that the cats he trained the way we now train kids didn't have seizures and die when they were given hydrazine in doses that kill almost all cats. The first work with humans was done with epileptics who had no benefit from medicine. Then D.A. Quirk did 25 years work with violent felons, keeping 85% of them from repeating their crimes (compared to only 2% in most prisons). Joel Lubar, a professor at the University of Tennessee, began working with with ADHD children in 1990. Today, in 1999, thousands of practitioners are helping tens of thousands of children.

Some children absolutely lose all their symptoms in 40 or so sessions of EEG training. A few need continuing training because they have Tourette's Syndrome or some other hard to fix problems. Everybody, of course, will benefit from good diet, avoidance of poisons, and elimination of allergens. Even when the allergy isn't fixed, the allergic patient who completes EEG training has a happier, healthier life.

I, myself, have been working with ADHD kids since I graduated from college in 1956. I began working with EEG biofeedback in the 60's - in fact I had a company which made and sold EEG instruments. I began copying the work Sterman pioneered in 1970.

In all those years I have never heard of anyone who was harmed by EEG biofeedback - one occasionally hears about a bad session but I've never seen one. There has not been one single malpractice suit against an EEG practitioner.

In my own practice I have experienced three failures. These three boys were seriously ill with more problems than ADHD. The three families did not continue for the number of sessions I had told them in the beginning the boy would need.

I have had one boy be completely restored in only 10 sessions, but I had had a good result with his brother in 20 sessions before him. The parents were poster parents for good care. I have had perhaps 10 boys done in 20 sessions and half of these have been this year for reasons which I can't figure out. About half are done in 40 sessions and I have one little guy who took 120 and another took 150. In both cases, I had worked with older children and the parents, and had good results in shorter time. In both cases the boys were .... horrible! I had thought that the only ethical course might be just to strangle them! One of them turned into a little charmer, and I still want the other boy back for 20 more sessions but he is doing well. His Mom has bipolar affective disorder. I fixed his Dad's life long spastic bowel pain in only 10 sessions (no pain after #4).

This "magic" method works on many other problems, but it was designed for ADHD. It trains the brain to stop the static and focus on life.

Dr. Von says that if you are interested in hyperactivity and attention deficit you must have a look at www.eegspectrum.com; www.ssnr.org; www.bfe.org; www.aapb.org as well as NEXT WEEK at his own website www.hyperactivekids.com.


Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:44:02 -0600 (MDT)
To:
From: "George von Hilsheimer"
Subject: Re: ADD add

Dear Cortoon,

No, the suggestions are not for weight.

You need to be certain the child is digesting well, so AbsorbAid or some other digestive enzyme

You need to be certain the child's intestinal ecology is good so L. acidophilus, remember you aren't a doctor so don't give 1 or 2 capsules, you are gardening (trying to get plants to grow in a hostile environment) so give 5-20 capsules and some acid food. If you don't have a book which tells you which foods are acid, write to me and I'll send you a list. But you ought to have LOTS of books on nutrition and if they don't include this info --- what good are they?

Children generally burn up more vitamins than adults so the child's need really ought to be higher than the adult requirement.

So you need a good multivitamin (I recommend Bronson's INSURANCE FORMULA).

Children do tend to need more zinc - and zinc often is more efficient than Ritalin for calming hyperactivity (REMEMBER! it needs to be given every 3 hours).

Children also need higher doses of ascorbic acid; but to work well the Vitamin C needs to be in the form of a mineral ascorbate. You can let the body do the work, or you can get them already in the form the child's body uses them (I recommend ALACER mineral ascorbate products).

All neurological problems, from more or less normal fatigue to epilepsy cause the body to require higher amounts of pyridoxine (Vitamin B-6). Never give B-6 without giving magnesium or you will have grumpy person.

Magnesium is self limiting because it is a laxative. So give just enough to soften the stool without causing a liquid bowel movement. It can't cause diarrhea but will cause one completely loose bowel movement. My dictionary says that diarrhea is excessive frequency AND looseness of stool.

Note that I don't always give exact doses. This is because a dose is a medical term, and for treating. This is nutritional advice and you need to become sensitive to your own family and to experiment and try various levels and to be informed. However, you should know that NO ONE has ever documented a problem from continual high doses of vitamins, despite many ghost stories. This includes the abominable ghost story recounted by a famous neurologists in one of his famous books - I am just recovering from pneumonia and can't remember but it made a good movie.

Two famous M.D.s have given very large doses of B-6 for many years, one for prevention of heart disease, and another for arthritis, with no problems.

I am drafting a website and you can have a look at it at http://home.mpinet.net/dkthomas/DrVon, you need the capitals I hope, tomorrow, to have it at its own site, www.hyperactivekids.com I will be posting nutritional advise and informational links there.

Good luck

-----Original Message-----
From: CORTOON@aol.com
Subject: ADD add
>You mention vitamins - dha, dmae etc - arent these sold in adult form -
>how much should a 6 year old get? My son has add and I am looking for
>anything besides ritalin to help him - your information is very
>interesting - but when I looked up your book - feed your kids well - is
>this for overweight children? My son definately doesnt need to lose
>weight - what do you suggest we do.
>cortoon


Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 22:45:00 -0600 (MDT)
To: ADD-HOLISTIC
From: Barbara Mazor
Subject: ADD Dr. Von - what you said

Dear Dr. Von -

Thanks for all the contributions to this list. I am glad to hear that you are feeling better (and sorry to hear you were sick at all). Your presence was missed.

Anyway, last year you wrote the following regarding EEGfeedback
and I was hoping you could explain what you meant.

> The point is that body work, working your own body, as well as accepting
> stimulation of your own body, helps reintegrate the body. ADD is caused
> by brakes on in the brain, the brakes get taken off by any thing which
> creates the antagonist to the high amplitude slow frequency activity
> which is how the brakes function. Relaxation causes much fast frequency
> activity, flooding the brain; massage, tai chi, etc etc all cause the
> brain to be flooded with "excitation" which washes out the "inhibition".

> I put "inhibition" and "excitation" in quotes because they are four
> dollar professional works, braking and unbraking is clearer, more to the
> point and cost you less.

> Frequently a summer working on a ranch, a mountain climbing expedition,
> a season with a guru of any kind, a sailing adventure, any experience
> which is productive, wholesome, focused and requires high effort, can
> release the brakes in the brain and result in a resolution of the ADD.

So what does this mean? Is ADD a brain working "too much" or "too little."?

What are alpha, beta and theta waves? Do body work and other relaxations have similar effect to EEG feedback? Does the child concentrate on the video game? What if he just concentrates on something else? You have also mentioned in this list EEGfeedback as responsible for helping brain injured patients. Was this in conjunction with other PT/OT?

I hope you web-site doesn't have too many graphics. My Jurasic computer crashes on complex sites.

Barbara


Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:28:48 -0600 (MDT)
To: add-holistic@mLists.net
From: DGLurvey@aol.com
Subject: Re: ADD Dr. Von - what you said

I not Dr. Von but I have successfully been thru EEG Biofeedback and my ADD has subsided. I now have full control of my Theta, where the ADD brain lives, (daydreams etc.), in other words my theta which was once out of control I can now control. My beta or focus, which is not active enough in ADD, is alive and healthy and under my control. Video games could help if the child or adult could learn to take that same focus away from the game. Bio feedback games, packman etc, are hooked up to the brain and when focus leaves the game stops. Unlike regular games.

I have gone from learning disabled to scoring over genius on IQ tests. It's been the ride of a lifetime.

Dennis


Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:28:19 -0600 (MDT)
To:
From: "George von Hilsheimer"
Subject: Re: ADD Chromium question

I always recommend chromium picolinate, you won't gain weight if you don't stop taking it!!!

George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., Fellow, International College of Applied Nutrition (1972)

-----Original Message-----
From: Betts.Demott@clorox.com
Subject: ADD Chromium question
>I've seen so many different chromium compounds on the market. I have
>tried Chromium Picolinate but as soon as I stopped taking it, I gained
>weight. then I tried Chromium polynictonate and didn't notice much
>difference in ADD symptoms or weight. Can anyone speak to this?
>Thanks,
>Betts
>"Joyce, I read that chromium was great for controlling sugar cravings."


Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:28:13 -0600 (MDT)
To:
From: "George von Hilsheimer"
Subject: Re: ADD Dr. Von - what you said

Well, I'm not on the www yet but look at
http://home.mpinet.net/dkthomas/DrVon needs the caps

and tell me what you think. That's the draft website.

Well, a brain working "too much/too little" is probably a misleading Question.

Brakes, as Pavlov called them, are essential. You have to brake the signals from the background to see what it is you are focusing on (same thing for touch and sound etc).

Where we have problems is when we are braking too much. Typically the hyper kid has big signals from 1-7 more or less. 4-7 is called Theta and is the range for daydreaming and creativity but also for zoning out and hyperactivity. So "what is it" is too simple.

I think "brakes" is a good concept. Little taps on the brakes keep the car from skidding, and little taps in the brain cause it to focus. When the brakes are on strongly, you are putting out very high amplitude slow waves and we call the condition "sleep", but then every 90 minutes you do very fast waves and lots of business goes on. You remain asleep, in fact harder to wake up than otherwise. Brakes are not pathological, just don't have them on when you are trying to accelerate from the red light.

All relaxation is exciting to the brain (understand that brain excitation isn't the same as being all up and bouncing because your favorite is coming to see you). Many folk make an error thinking of relaxation as leading to sleep, but the flow of calm excitation supples the brain and makes it fluent again and then sleep can do its restorative job.

What happens in ADHD is that the brain is half braked, not asleep but persistently half asleep. That's why Ritalin works, and that is why EEG biofeedback works.

When the brain is injured its response is huge amplitude of slow waves, like sleep, but not entirely restorative (that's what the brain is trying to do). So EEG training works - in my cases the OT and PT have been done long ago, and are not needed - when I'm director of rehab I'll do EEG biofeedback before any of other modes, and then they will be very useful.

If this isn't clear ask again. Dr. Von


Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:26:45 -0600 (MDT)
To:
From: "George von Hilsheimer"
Subject: Re: ADD Re: New to List; Joyce's comment;Comment

Chromium deficiency has long been attested as a deranger of sugar metabolism. Any chromium ascorbate works like a charm - try Alacer Brand. Dr. Von


Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 21:24:14 -0600 (MDT)
To: add-holistic@mLists.net
From: mgold@tiac.net
Subject: Re: ADD Opening post from Visiting Expert Dr. Von

>Do these physical markers mean that ADHD is inherited? No! Not at all.
>These markers are a function of stress before, during, and after
>pregnancy. The stress is usually nutritional, but good old shake-rattle-
>and-roll social stress will do the job as well. Mommies of ADHD children
>were stressed out, poorly nourished and often were not happy.

Dr. Von,

Thank you very much for being the honored Visiting Expert! I have a comment and questions.

I know that a colleague of yours, Phil Bate, Ph.D. also mentions stress being associated with allergies or food reactions. I have noticed that for myself as well. When I first reduced and nearly eliminated my allergies, I was practicing yoga regularly. On the physical level for me, the stress wasn't so much a lack of nutrients (it seemed), but simply a significant amount of unbalanced meals of junk food, some overeating and inconsistent eating schedule.

>Some children absolutely lose all their symptoms in 40 or so sessions of
>EEG training. A few need continuing training because they have Tourette's
>Syndrome or some other hard to fix problems. Everybody, of course, will
>benefit from good diet, avoidance of poisons, and elimination of
>allergens. Even when the allergy isn't fixed, the allergic patient who
>completes EEG training has a happier, healthier life.

Here are a few questions I had:

  1. Has it been your experience that the number of EEG training sessions required are significantly greater if a few weeks or so are not spent eliminating foods and chemicals that contribute to these behavioral changes? If that is the case, do you generally recommend working on eliminating such food/ chemical reactions first and setting up an EEG training session several weeks later?

  2. I have seen discussions on various groups about EEG machines. I was wondering if you could take a moment to summarize your thoughts about:

    • purchasing a machine vs. using a practitioner's machine
    • how much training is needed to use the EEG machine correctly
    • price considerations -- it's not free, but so many of your patients have had positive outcomes -- how to get the most "bang for your buck" so to speak.

>Dr. Von says that if you are interested in hyperactivity and attention
>deficit you must have a look at www.eegspectrum.com; www.ssnr.org;
>www.bfe.org; www.aapb.org as well as NEXT WEEK at his own website
> www.hyperactivekids.com.

It looks like your site is fully functional! Great!

Best Wishes,
- Mark
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 21:24:31 -0600 (MDT)
To: add-holistic@mLists.net
From: DGLurvey@aol.com
Subject: Re: ADD Dr. Von - what you said

EEG Biofeedback took away my attention problems years ago. After a horrible breakup my doctor put me on Wellbutrin for depression. However the stimulant effect of the drug has helped also. It has made focus easier while it used to be some work some of the time. Now that I am winding down off Wellbutrin I find that that same focus is with me even on non-med days.

I have been training my self to focus on organizational issues. Keeping my desk clean and keeping myself cleaner. Because those things are part of my PTSD. I am making great progress. It's difficult to want to shower twice a day when you have claustrophobia.

Comments?

Dennis


Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:25:46 -0600 (MDT)
To: add-holistic@mLists.net
From: "John V DOMmisse, MD"
Subject: Re: ADD Opening post from Visiting Expert Dr. Von

Mark (host), and Dr Geo. vonHilzheimer (visiting expert),

The subject of allergies causing ADHD and other neuropsychiatric conditions reminds me that, on Physicians' Online, a Dr Marshall Mandell has been telling the rest of us about his experience of curing numerous conditions, including ADHD with food-elimination diets. I believe he would have a great time interacting with this Mailing List, so I am copying this e-mail to him in the hope that he'll get it and respond to the Mailing-List. Unfortunately, this would just be the rare occasion when Physicians' Online is not responding and may be down temporarily, so I can't check his e-mail address, which I have on POL but not in my EarthLink address-book yet. So, if this address doesn't work for him, I'll correct it as soon as see POL is functional again.

John DOMmisse MD


Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:26:16 -0600 (MDT)
To: add-holistic@mLists.net
From: Joyce
Subject: Re: ADD Opening post from Visiting Expert Dr. Von

Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 13:52:01 -0400

Hi everyone,

>>Mommies of ADHD children
>>were stressed out, poorly nourished and often were not happy.

I've heard that thought before. The MD that finally found and resolved our older sons problems, initially listened to my spouse and me describe the problems with our sons and then said something to the effect that "You are under a lot of stress, you need to take very, very good care of you and here's how to start." Although we had already eliminated almost all junk food out of the house, he eliminated the rest and added supplements. Of course, he didn't know, nor did I, that I was also ADD . His suggestions helped even if they did not resolve everything.

Joyce


Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 14:14:56 -0600 (MDT)
To:
From: "George von Hilsheimer"
Subject: Re: ADD Opening post from Visiting Expert Dr. Von

By the way, my website, www.hyperactivekids.com is now up and running although the library shelves aren't full, yet. Lots of good stuff, though.

>1. Has it been your experience that the number of EEG training
> sessions required are significantly greater if a few weeks
> or so are not spent eliminating foods and chemicals that
> contribute to these behavioral changes? If that is the case,
> do you generally recommend working on eliminating such food/
> chemical reactions first and setting up an EEG training session
> several weeks later?

**************
Most practitioners are not willing to engage in the heavy wrestling that it requires to get parents to change diets radically. In my own case I advise parents to shape up, and tell them I'm not going to talk about it any more. But I make it clear that I think it is child abuse to be feeding a child junk.

I can't give you an answer to your question. Neither I nor anyone known to me has done a careful study. www.quackwatch.com would tell you that diet is unimportant and that Feingold and the rest of us are quacks. Well, I list quackwatch on my own website, because I want parents to make up their own minds. The editor of quackwatch is a retired psychiatrist, and his defenses of psychotherapy make me laugh - there is no evidence for going to a psychotherapist over a good friend, policeman, Sunday School Teacher, or your grandmother (Dawes, R.M. HOUSE OF CARDS, Free Press, 1994).

>2. I have seen discussions on various groups about EEG machines.
> I was wondering if you could take a moment to summarize your
> thoughts about:
> - purchasing a machine vs. using a practitioner's machine
> - how much training is needed to use the EEG machine correctly
> - price considerations -- it's not free, but so many of your
> patients have had positive outcomes -- how to get the most
> "bang for your buck" so to speak.

If you come to me with a child with a serious brain injury I always set you up in a program to get your own machine and spend a month training with me. You are going to have to do 1000 sessions and it doesn't make sense to buy from a practitioner. It isn't brain surgery, and if you will be careful, systematic and thorough, you will get good results. No one has harmed anyone by doing EEG biofeedback, although some report bad sessions. I've never seen a bad session in 40 years, but ......

I do not have universal experience, but I own and use the Neurocybernetics machine from EEG Spectrum, which has been reliable for 8 years; I have five 120a Autogen machines (the oldest is 30 years experienced!), and one A620 Autogen; I also have a Biocomp which does EEG and HEG but have only had it for a year. The all time winner for cost effectiveness is the F1000b from frank@focused-technology.com . I have used all my machines roughly every day, and all these companies and products are reliable. I typically use all of them on every client - each has an advantage. Some sessions are around the room to four stations.

In Orlando we are blessed to have the Stepping Stone foundation which makes machines available to seriously ill kids who live near Mickey Mouse. I have had no problems with even severely damaged children, and always good results.

In fact, one of my businessmen friends told me the best way to promote business was by calling your old customers. So, I foned the whole list. They all love me, and their kids are all doing well - didn't bring in any business, no one needed more work! EEG biofeedback is robust, safe and effective.

Dr. Von


Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 14:13:46 -0600 (MDT)
To:
From: "George von Hilsheimer"
Subject: ADD PTSD, things that work.

Dennis, have you had any sessions of TIR, Trauma Incidence Reduction, which is described in Gerbode's book, Metapsychology? I have had great success using Gerbode (although I hated his title, he seems to have given that up and focuses now on the TIR identity).

The method makes great sense and works readily.

I think there is a website etc.

You might also find someone who does Ericksonian interactive therapy. While practitioners are more prone to airy fairy posturing than the Gerbode trained workers Interactive can be a powerful tool.

Since Sterman started with C-3/C-4 SMR training, and was followed by Quirk doing the same with 2776 felons from 1970-1995 at Ontario Inst of Correction I have followed Sterman and added Quirk's use of temperature training (at the left index finger) and GSR training, in the model of Mary Cover Jones for reducing the effect of trauma (usurped by Wolpe as "Reciprocal Inhibition Therapy"). You can find Quirk's SCARS described at www.eegspectrum.com but look carefully, that site is jammed with good stuff! but needs a good librarian!!!

Good luck, Dr. Von


Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 16:25:06 -0600 (MDT)
To: add-holistic@mLists.net
From: Showell16@aol.com
Subject: Re: ADD Opening post from Visiting Expert Dr. Von

Dr. Von,

Since reading your post I am seriously considering this with my son who is ADHD - almost 8. Of course, he is "less" adhd now that I am homeschooling him and have changed his diet and started supplements. Actually just the act of homeschooling him has increased his attention span and increased his reading skills dramatically.

My question is actually about my other son who is almost 12 who is Asperger's Syndrome and maybe be ADHD too - hard to tease some of it out. Do you know if biofeedback has helped children with Asperger's.

Thank you
Sharon Howell


Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:01:46 -0600 (MDT)
To:
From: "George von Hilsheimer"
Subject: ADD Asberger's Syndrome

Yes, EEG Biofeedback has a strong effect in autism and in Asperger's Syndrome.

If I were the parent of any child with a severe chronic brain illness I would obtain training, and then buy my own machine and train my child daily.

You can look at dozens of case histories at www.eegspectrum.com - it takes a bit of work to get through the enormous information there, but try hard. Well worth the effort and David Kaiser, Ph.D., the webmaster is a very kind and knowledgeable fellow.

You can look at my own www.hyperactivekids.com but I haven't got my Library shelves filled yet, still there is plenty of good info.

Good luck, Dr. Von


Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:05:45 -0600 (MDT)
To:
From: "George von Hilsheimer"
Subject: ADD Showering

My wife is the shower user in our house. I always take a tub bath, 1,2,3,4 who cares, much lest claustrophobic than the shower. You should add epsom salts to the tub water and alternate or mix with sodium bicarb. With kids adding sodium bicarb actually increases the vascularity of the brain. Ray Peat, Ph.D. has written a great deal on the value of sodium bicarb. The epsom salts is magnesium sulphate and reduces hyperactivity directly. Very relaxing and it is a good time for Dad to get the time he needs to be physically touching the kids every day.

Tub baths, ideal for ADHD. If any of you ever taught nursery school you know that water play calms the kids. Well an nice tub bath, esp with a couple of cups of epsom salts, and a cup of bicarb, really relaxes the kids and they sleep deeply with good restoration.

So don't shower, plunge!

Dr. Von
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From: ejg
Subject: Re: ADD Dr. Von - what you said
>Yes--why do you want to shower twice a day??!!
>Unless you do physical work, maybe that's it. I take a shower
>every other day. Frankly, it's boring and just one more
>darned thing I feel like I "have" to do but don't


Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:06:01 -0600 (MDT)
To:
From: "George von Hilsheimer"
Subject: ADD Dr. Mandell, Allergies and ADHD

You can download my book, ALLERGY, TOXINS AND THE LD CHILD, from www.hyperactivekids.com and since you come from add-holistic I do forgive the shareware fee. I wrote this book about the time I met Marshall Mandell who is one of the greats of allergy, and who made many folk aware of the fair, tow headed, dark circles around the eyes, nose wiping hyperactive allergic child.

Dr. Von

-----Original Message-----
From: John V DOMmisse, MD
Subject: Re: ADD Opening post from Visiting Expert Dr. Von
>The subject of allergies causing ADHD and other neuropsychiatric
>conditions reminds me that, on Physicians' Online, a Dr Marshall Mandell
>has been telling the rest of us about his experience of curing numerous
>conditions, including ADHD with food-elimination diets. I believe he
>would have a great time interacting with this Mailing List, so I am
>copying this e-mail to him in the hope that he'll get it and respond to
>the Mailing-List. Unfortunately, this would just be the rare occasion
>when Physicians' Online is not responding and may be down temporarily, so
>I can't check his e-mail address, which I have on POL but not in my
>EarthLink address-book yet. So, if this address doesn't work for him,
>I'll correct it as soon as see POL is functional again.
> John DOMmisse MD


Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:06:29 -0600 (MDT)
To:
From: "George von Hilsheimer"
Subject: ADD Exhausted parents

Exhausted parents are the rule. I just had a phone call from Patrick, whose picture as a 4 year old is in my book, ALLERGY, TOXINS AND THE LD CHILD, (free from the www.hyperactivekids.com ), he's 40 now and wanted to know what nutriments his newly pregnant wife should take. Note to grateful readers, Patrick flew my wife and me to Bermuda, and paid all our expenses, so that I could officiate at his wedding. Nice when gratitude is REALLY emphasized.

Anyone else wants a wedding done, I do wonderful weddings!

Anyway, his mother always grabs my hand and kisses it and says "You saved my life", which is probably true. Patrick was the original hellion but mellowed beautifully on amphetamine (in that early time I had to threaten his pediatrician with death to Rx amphetamine for a 4 year old, then he started giving it to all of his ADHD patients), and then was managed on diet - we never got around to doing EEG biofeedback on him, and didn't really start applying it to kids until about 1990.

You will find questionnaires for adults at my website.

Dr. Von

-----Original Message-----
From: Joyce
Subject: Re: ADD Opening post from Visiting Expert Dr. Von
>I've heard that thought before. The MD that finally found and resolved
>our older sons problems, initially listened to my spouse and me describe
>the problems with our sons and then said something to the effect that "You
>are under a lot of stress, you need to take very, very good care of you
>and here's how to start." Although we had already eliminated almost all
>junk food out of the house, he eliminated the rest and added supplements.
>Of course, he didn't know, nor did I, that I was also ADD . His
>suggestions helped even if they did not resolve everything.
>Joyce


Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:41:43 -0600 (MDT)
To: add-holistic@mLists.net
From: Showell16@aol.com
Subject: Re: ADD Asperger's Syndrome

DR. Von,
Thank you very much for your advice concerning my son. I'll take a look at the web sites.
Sharon in TX:-)


Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 22:07:40 -0600 (MDT)
To: add-holistic@mLists.net
From: Rich
Subject: ADD insurance issues

Hi,

Not sure if this is DIRECTLY within the scope of this forum, if not, then please ignore. Otherwise, here goes. Does anyone have any problems with regard to getting your insurance companies to pay for neurofeedback treatment? I got mine to pay for part of it. They paid 75% of the bill for 30 visits. However, from what I hear, it takes about 50 - 55 visits to see definite results. I've filed a grievance with the state of Oregon to get my insurance company to pay for an additional 20 visits. The state says this process takes around 60 days to complete. Gee, maybe my neurofeedback training will wear off by then and I can start over! (sorry, a tiny bit bitter here). I'm sure there are a lot of insurance companies that would not even contemplate paying for this. Nevertheless, I know they are not hurting for money and I think I should press this issue. My question is this: has anyone had a similar experience where you actually won against the insurance company?

Rich


Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 22:02:11 -0600 (MDT)
To:
From: "George von Hilsheimer"
Subject: Re: ADD insurance issues

Rich, as a practitioner I always tell folk, "no one can tell you if your insurance covers this care. Get a referall from your primary, then I'll get an Rx from your highest ranking specialist." I find that if Mom (usually) or Dad will develop OCD and pursue and pursue and pursue, the company finally pays. However, yesterday we received a letter in the SIXTH year of care of a retarded schizophrenic man, "the benefits are denied for services in 1998 because the services were given before the date the policy beganthe policy has been in effect for 20 years, but the company has rejected and rejected on false bases every time. ". This company has used every rejection paragraph in their handbook. Insurance companies are in business to make money and some are utterly fraudulent. others are decent and straightforward. You never know.

You just have to dig in and fight. Dr. Von


Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 15:02:21 -0600 (MDT)
To: add-holistic@mLists.net
From: mgold@tiac.net
Subject: ADD Visiting Expert Introduction

Hi! Below is an introduction of this week's honored Visiting Expert. But first, I want to thank Dr. Von for providing us with detailed information related to successful ADD/ADHD treatment methods. Please feel free to check his web page at:

http://www.hyperactivekids.com/