Leon Chaitow, N.D., D.O.
Presentation + Questions & Answers
For CFS-FMS-Holistic Discussion Group
http://www.HolisticMed.Com/cfs/
To: cfs-fms@holisticmed.com
From: mgold@tiac.net
Subject: CFS/FMS: Visiting Expert Introduction
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:58:58 -0400 (EDT)
Hi! It is an honor to welcome the next Visiting Expert, Leon Chaitow,
N.D., D.O. Dr. Chaitow is a highly-regarded lecturer and teacher in both
Europe and North America. The theory and practice of treating FMS and CFS
using Holistic Medicine techniques is among his primary focus.
I think we are very fortunate that Dr. Chaitow was able to take time out
from his very busy schedule to be an honored Visiting Expert. Please join
me in welcoming him to the group. [Clap! Clap!! Clap!!!]
Below is a short bio. His opening presentation will be forwarded to the
list after this email.
short bio :
Leon Chaitow is a registered osteopath and naturopath; author or over 60
books; editor of peer reviewed Journal of Bodywork & Movement Therapies
(JBMT), and is a senior lecturer and module leader on post- and
undergraduate courses at the University of Westminster, London.
He lectures internationally on both bodywork and general health topics
from integrated naturopathic & osteopathic perspectives (with
fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome and breathing dysfunctions being
his current primary focus), mainly to GPs, physiotherapists, osteopaths,
chiropractors and massage therapists.
He practices privately in the UK and in Corfu, Greece, as well as in an
NHS setting (at Marylebone Health Centre, London)
Leon is married to Alkmini (author of several books including Greek
Vegetarian Cooking). Their daughter Sasha is currently studying in Athens
(Fine Art and communications)
For details of UK courses run at the University of Westminster as parts of
the BSc and MSc pathways, and which are also available as short courses
contact Mark Armstrong, Short Course director ++44-(0)20-7511-9000
(extension 3699).
For full course details contact Admissions ++44-(0)20-7911-5082
For details of multidisciplinary 'Head Neck and Facial Pain' conference,
sponsored by JBMT, to be held in Washington DC, October 13-15th 2000,
contact : International Alliance of Health Care Educators 001-561-622-4334
(Extension 50700)
http://www.IAHE.com
Best Wishes,
- Mark
mgold@tiac.net
CFS/FMS Holistic Resource Center & Mailing List
http://www.HolisticMed.com/cfs/
To: cfs-fms@holisticmed.com
From: Leon Chaitow
Subject: CFS/FMS: Visiting Expert Presentation
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 19:15:53 +0300
Opening remarks :
I find that broadly speaking patients with FMS/CFS have a mix of
biomechanical,biochemical and psychosocial etiological features, often
with one or other being dominent. Examples :
Biochemical : features may involve thyroid dysfunction, chronic viral or
yeast infection, food/chemicle intolerances allergies....and others
Biomechanical : features may involve respiratory imbalance
(hyperventilation), whiplash injury, widespread myofacial trigger points
activity
Psychosocial : features may involve depression, anxiety etc
Many seem to have an inborn tendency towards these chronic states
(familial evidence of others with similar conditions) which has been
exacerbated by events.
I work from the position of attempting to reduce the adaptive load being
dealt with by the individuals homeostatic mechanisms, at the same time as
attempting to enhance their adaptive capabilities.
i.e. "Lighten the load and increase coping potential" - and allow natural
self-regulating mechanisms to do the rest.
Modalities used are outlined in the 'protocol', below
My FMS Protocol
Where a condition has multiple interacting causes it makes clinical sense
to try to reduce the burden of whatever factors are imposing adaptive
demands on the defense, immune and repair mechanisms of the body, while at
the same time doing all that is possible to enhance those mechanisms,
without further increasing demands on the patient's adaptive capacity and
current vitality.
In my own practice (not always in the order listed) we aim to :
Get the diagnosis right. Many rheumatic-type problems produce widespread
muscular pain -e.g. polymyalgia rheumatica. Lab and other tests can
identify most non-FMS conditions
Identify associated myofascial trigger point activity and treat using
methods chosen from bodywork, injection (xylocaine etc), acupuncture,
nutrition, hydrotherapy, postural &/or breathing reeducation, relaxation
methods etc
Assess and treat (or refer elsewhere) associated conditions such as
allergy, anxiety, hyperventilation, yeast or viral activity, bowel
dysfunction, under-active thyroid, sleep disturbance, depression etc.
Introduce constitutional health enhancement methods such as - breathing
retraining, deep relaxation methods (e.g. autogenic training), graduated
exercise programmes, regular (weekly or fortnightly) detoxification
(fasting) days (to detoxify as well as boost growth hormone production),
hydrotherapy e.g.neutral bath or 'Constitutional approach', for
anxiety/pain. Possibly progressive cold bathing for circulation, plus
regular non-specific massage and acupuncture for 'energy balancing' and
pain control.
Offer appropriate nutritional advice, including herbs and supplements
(Magnesium, Malic acid, manganese glycinate, Methionine, NAC, vitamin B1
(thiamine), DLPA etc) if necessary, and/or as amino acids for growth
hormone production (arginine, ornithine), as well as specific herbal help
to enhance circulation to the brain [e.g. Ginkgo biloba] or which have
pain reducing properties (e.g.Boswellia) or which are relaxing (kava kava,
valerian etc) & homoeopathic remedies Rhus tox 6C. Exclude nightshade
family of foods, sugars, yeast based foods (?), processed foods Include
whole foods, organic if possible, adequate protein and appropriate fluid
intake.
Provide appropriate soft tissue treatment plus teaching gentle self-help
methods(daily use)
Advise on regular exercise within tolerance - if possible including
cardiovascular training and stretching movements (yoga &/or T'ai chi)
Suggest medication - under medical supervision only - in appropriate
cases, to enhance sleep - antidepressant drugs (very low dosage) may offer
short-term benefit.
Encourage patients to join support groups,to read about their condition
and health enhancement, to take control of their condition even if
progress is apparently slow.
Offer stress or general counselling which may help in the learning of
coping skills and lead to stress reduction.
Details of the research validation for all of these methods is to be found
in my books on the subject:
Fibromyalgia and Muscle Pain
Thorsons/HarperCollins
ISBN 0722537352
which is a layman's guide to the subject and
Fibromyalgia - a practitioners guide to treatment
Churchill Livingstone/Harcourt
0443 06227 7 1999
and video
0443 06454 7 PAL
(For a full listing of currently available books see end of this
email +/or go to
http://www.lchaitow.healingonline.co.uk
to order by phone dial
44(0) 20 7323 2382
Case history
David, aged 40, consulted me with fatigue and general muscular pain. He
had seen a neurologist who diagnosed chronic fatigue syndrome, although
his own doctor considered that the condition might be fibromyalgia. His
case history was complex and space does not permit a full recounting of it
here. Suffice to say that the aspect of David's condition which attracted
my initial interest was his appalling breathing pattern, which involved
shallow upper chest activity interspersed with gasps and sighs as 'air
hunger' manifested. His history included periods of extreme anxiety and
panic attacks, culminating in phobic behaviour. This had been treated
medically (drugs) and by Cognitive behaviour modification. His fatigue and
muscular pain problems had emerged slowly over the years, but had become
more severe following his treatment with anxiolytic drugs. Significantly
no-one had ever approached the problem from the perspective of trying to
help David to normalise his breathing.
At the first consultation a detailed nutritional evaluation was made,
which together with his symptoms and evidence from manual palpation, led
to specific suggestions being made :
All caffeine and alcohol were to be avoided (David drank both moderately)
as they negatively influence all his symptoms (Uhde et al 1984)
David's sugar intake was cut drastically for similar reasons (Rainey et al
1984)
Calcium and magnesium were prescribed (1000mg/500mg daily) as he
demonstrated a positive Chvostek sign (a sign of latent tetany which
probably involves calcium and or magnesium deficiency is evident when a
small reflex hammer is used to tap the soft part of the cheek, avoiding
the zygomatic arch. If a lightning-like contraction occurs the test is
positive (Durlach 1994)
Basic instruction was given in the use of 'anti-arousal' breathing which
is based on pranayama yoga, and which has been researched to show a
calming effect on anxious individuals (Cappo & Holmes 1984)
Bodywork sessions were scheduled to attempt to release his tense and tight
respiratory apparatus : thoracic spine, ribs, intercostals, diaphragm,
accessory breathing muscles - as well as to deactivate a number of active
trigger points I had identified by palpation in his upper abdominal,
intercostal, pectoral, scalene and upper trapezius muscles.
Over the following 6 weeks David was seen weekly, after which fortnightly
sessions were arranged. During this time a combination of NMT, PRT and MET
was used to achieve a gradual improvement in the structures identified as
dysfunctional and to deactivate the trigger points.
The method used to deactivate trigger points involves a sequence of using
NMT, PRT and MET, called integrated neuromuscular inhibition technique
(INIT) which incorporates and integrates sequentially a number of
different methods, for optimal results in effectively eliminating the
reflexive behaviour of myofascial trigger points. (Chaitow 2000)
Treatment, as described, has thus far (after 6 months) resulted in a
marked improvement in David's symptoms - with visual analog pain scores of
around 4 to 5, compared with 9 or 10 at the outset. His fatigue levels
have improved at approximately the same rate, although there are periodic
set-backs, possibly related to environmental or food
sensitivities/allergies thus far not identified.
Treatment now continues at monthly intervals, with an associate when I am
abroad, and with me when I am in London.
My prognosis based on past experience of similar cases suggests that David
will require regular attention (bodywork and nutritional guidance) at
roughly this level for another 6 months or so, after which, if progress is
maintained a periodic check-up to ensure his improvement is maintained -
say every six months - would be advisable.
In this example a combination of bodywork approaches together with
rehabilitation strategies (breathing in particular) can be seen, in
association with nutritional modification, to have changed a situation
verging on dysfunctional, to a pattern of reasonable functionality. Had I
had more of a training in psychotherapy I have no doubt some of the deeper
causes of David's anxiety may have been addressed, and this remains an
area in which I feel deficient. Since David resists all suggestions to
see a counselor or psychotherapist, my own primitive efforts in this
direction have to suffice.
References :
Cappo B Holmes D 1984 Utility of prolonged respiratory exhalation for
reducing physiological and psychological arousal in non-threatening and
threatening situations J Psychosomatic Research 28(4)pp265-273
Chaitow 2000 Fibromyalgia Syndrome : A Practitioner's guide to its
treatment. Churchill Livingstone Edinburgh
Durlach J Magnesium and therapeutics. Magnesium Research 7:313-328
Rainey J et al 1984 Psychopharmacology Bulletin 20(1):45-49
Uhde T et al 1984 Caffeine and behaviour - relationship to psychopathology
and underlying mechanisms. Pharmacology Bulletin 20(3) 426-430
Recovery from FMS is slow at best and it is easy to make matters worse by
over-enthusiastic and inappropriate interventions. Patience is required by
both the health care provider and the patient, avoiding raising false
hopes while realistic therapeutic and educational methods are used which
do not make matters worse and which offer ease and the best chance of
improvement.
I will be pleased to answer queries based on the brief summary of concepts
and methods outlined above.
Current titles written by Leon Chaitow include (prices are quoted in
sterling for $ price see Amazon.com):
Books published by
Harcourt
Title
ISBN
Book number
ISBN Video number
Muscle Energy Techniques
0443 05297 2 1996
A329.95
0443 05785 0 PAL
A364.55
Positional Release Techniques
0443 05299 9 1996
A323.95
0443 05976 4 PAL
A357.52
Modern Neuromuscular Techniques
0443 05298 0 1996
A327.95
0443 05976 4 PAL
A361.04
Palpation Skills
0443 05320 0 1997
A332.95
0443 06438 5 PAL
A358.75
Cranial Manipulation - theory and practice
0443 058032 1998
A329.50
0443 06438 5 PAL
A382.25
Fibromyalgia - a practitioners guide to treatment
0443 06227 7 1999
A325.00
0443 06454 7 PAL
A382.25
Books published by Healing Arts Press
The Acupuncture Treatment of Pain
ISBN 0-892813830
A317.95
Soft Tissue Manipulation
ISBN 0892812761
A329.99
Books published by Thorsons / HarperCollins
The Antibiotic Crisis - antidotes and alternatives
ISBN 0722535562
A36.99
Candida Albicans - Could yeast be your problem
ISBN 0722533439
A35.99
Diets to help Candida
ISBN 072253423x
A33.99
Principles of Fasting
ISBN 0722533063
A35.99
Fibromyalgia and Muscle Pain
ISBN 0722537352
A36.99
Holistic Pain Relief
ISBN 0722534361
A38.99
High Blood Pressure - Safe alternatives without drugs
ISBN 0722535635
A33.99
Prostate Problems - Safe alternatives without drugs
ISBN 0722535619
A33.99
Skin Problems - Safe alternatives without drugs
ISBN 0722535937
A33.99
Books published by Element
HIV & AIDS - The Natural Way
ISBN 1852308540
A32.99
Hydrotherapy: water therapy for beauty and heal
ISBN 1862044457
A35.99
Books published by Daniel
Vaccination and Immunization : Dangers. delusions and alternatives
ISBN 0852071914
A36.99
Should
you wish to order one of Leon Chaitow's books or videos in the UK,
please call xx44 (0)20 7323 2382 and make your order over the phone
or
visit HealingPeople.com and CLICK ON 'MEET OUR ADVISORY BOARD'
http://www.healingpeople.com/ht/EN/articles/2000/3/6/512.tmpl
JOURNAL AND BOOK DETAILS CAN BE ORDERED VIA THIS WEB PAGE
Leon Chaitow ND DO
Senior Lecturer,
CCCPH, University of Westminster
115, New Cavendish Street
London W1M 8JS
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fax : ++44-(0)20-7486-1241
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http://www.IntegrativeHealthcare.co.uk
PRACTICE DETAILS
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To: cfs-fms@holisticmed.com
From: mgold@tiac.net
Subject: Re: CFS/FMS: Visiting Expert Presentation
Dr. Chaitow,
Thank you very much for your providing an FMS program outline and a case
history. I found it very informative. I have a couple of brief followup
questions:
- While a regular, relaxing therapeutic massage may be helpful for
some FMS and CFS patients, are their types of bodywork practitioners
that you might suggest a person consider? For example, the bodywork
you did with David (see case history) reminds me a bit of
Craniosacral therapists who are trained in Visceral Manipulation.
I guess what I'm asking is that if the patient's general practitioner
in not trained in bodywork techniques, is it possible to make a
general suggestion on the type of practitioner that may be helpful
for FMS and CFS? Perhaps your book goes into more detail on this
issue?
- You provided information about your book:
Fibromyalgia and Muscle Pain
Thorsons/HarperCollins
ISBN 0722537352
From what I understand it contains self-help information for persons
with fibromyalgia. Is there information in the book for persons with
CFS as well?
Your healing program looks fairly comprehensive. I like the fact that you
customize it to your patients' needs. I would hope that there are
Naturopaths and Holistic MD's available who could either put together a
similar program or help readers find practitioners with such talents.
Thank you again for the case history. It reminded me a bit of my previous
situation that included: chronic fatigue, severe breathing problems with
shallow upper chest activity and lots of sighs (related at least partially
to psychological "issues"), anxiety, tight respiratory apparatus, etc.
While it's too bad that you can't personally treat the millions of FMS
patients. :-) But I am very grateful that your presentation and books for
patients and practitioners are available to help them. Thank you very
much!
Best Wishes,
- Mark
mgold@tiac.net
CFS/FMS Holistic Resource Center & Mailing List
http://www.HolisticMed.com/cfs/
To: cfs-fms@holisticmed.com
From: Leon Chaitow
Subject: Re: CFS/FMS: Visiting Expert Presentation
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:38:04 +0300
MY RESPONSES IN CAPITALS
> I guess what I'm asking is that if the patient's general practitioner
> in not trained in bodywork techniques, is it possible to make a
> general suggestion on the type of practitioner that may be helpful
> for FMS and CFS? Perhaps your book goes into more detail on this
> issue?
I HAVE TAUGHT MANY HUNDREDS OF NEUROMUSCULAR AND MASSAGE THERAPISTS IN THE
USA AND EUROPE, MY APPROCH AND METHODS...ALTHOUGH HOW MANY USE THEM I DO
NOT KNOW...PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS ASK BEFORE LETTING ANYONE TOUCH THEM,
WHETHER THE PERSON IS FAMILIAR WITH AND USED TO TREATING FMS. THERE ARE
ALSO SOME GOOD STUDIES SHOWING THAT A COMBINATION OF SOFT TISSUE
MANIPULATION AND STRAIGHT CHIROPRACTIC CAN BE HELPFUL (SEE FOR EXAMPLE
JOURNAL OF MANIPULATIVE AND PHYSIOLOGICAL THERAPEUTICS VOL23 NUMBER 4 MAY
2000 PP225-230 FOR AN ARTICLE BY HAINS AND HAINS ON THIS SUBJECT) I DO
SUGGEST THAT MY BOOK 'FIBROMYALGIA SYNDROME - A PRACITIONER'S GUIDE
(CHURCHILL LIVINGSTONE 2000) OF WHICH I GAVE DETAILS IN MY PRESENTATION,
BE PURCHASED AND PRESENTED FOR LOAN TO PRACTITIONERS, AS IT OUTLINES
BODYWORK APPROACHES (AS WELL AS A WIDE RANGE OF OTHER METHODS, WITH FULL
CITATIONS) SO LOOK FOR A 'BODYWORKER' WITH AN NMT BACKGROUND AS A FIRST
CHOICE, IDEALLY ONE WHO UNDERSTANDS FMS.
>2. You provided information about your book:
> Fibromyalgia and Muscle Pain
> Thorsons/HarperCollins
> ISBN 0722537352
> From what I understand it contains self-help information for persons
> with fibromyalgia. Is there information in the book for persons with
> CFS as well?
YES, THE DIETARY, HYDROTHERAPY, STRESS MANAGEMENT AND MANY OTHER ASPECTS
OF CARE ARE IDEN TICAL, DEPENDING ON INDIVIDUAL CHARACTERISTICS...THE
DIFFERENCE IN TREATMENT OF CFS AND FMS LIES LESS IN THE 'NAME' OF THE
CONDITION (ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SUBTLE DIFFERENCES) THAN IN THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN PEOPLE AND THEIR HISTORY AND CURRENT HEALTH STATUS
>Your healing program looks fairly comprehensive. I like the fact that you
>customize it to your patients' needs. I would hope that there are
>Naturopaths and Holistic MD's available who could either put together a
>similar program or help readers find practitioners with such talents.
THERE ARE
>Thank you again for the case history. It reminded me a bit of my previous
>situation that included: chronic fatigue, severe breathing problems with
>shallow upper chest activity and lots of sighs (related at least partially
>to psychological "issues"), anxiety, tight respiratory apparatus, etc.
THIS IS A VERY VERY COMMON PART OF THESE PROBLEMS AND VERY MUCH NEGLECTED
- BREATHING DYSFUNCTION SUCH AS HYPERVENTILATION CAN CAUSE AND/OR
EXACERBATE ALMOST ALL (ALL!!!) THE SYMPTOMS OF FMS AND CFS !
>While it's too bad that you can't personally treat the millions of FMS
>patients. :-) But I am very grateful that your presentation and books for
>patients and practitioners are available to help them. Thank you very
>much!
THANKYOU
Leon Chaitow ND DO
Senior Lecturer,
CCCPH, University of Westminster
115, New Cavendish Street
London W1M 8JS
To: cfs-fms@holisticmed.com
From: LSpe105968@aol.com
Subject: Re: CFS/FMS: Visiting Expert Presentation
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:37:00 EDT
What do you use if malic acid upsets your stomach and you can't
tolerate MSM?
Lynda
To: cfs-fms@holisticmed.com
From: Leon Chaitow
Subject: Re: CFS/FMS: Visiting Expert Presentation
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:17:20 +0300
MY RESPONSE IN CAPITALS :
LYNDA ASKED :
>Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 18:37:00 EDT
>What do you use if malic acid upsets your stomach and you can't
>tolerate MSM?
>Lynda
RESPONSE :
I ALWAYS COMMENCE SUPPLEMENTATION IN A LOWER DOSAGE THAN THAT RECOMMENDED
AND ASK PATIENTS TO SLOWLY INCREASE DOSAGE TO THE LEVEL REQUIRED. I ALSO
SUGGEST THAT ONLY ONE CHANGE BE MADE AT A TIME, I.E. ONLY INTROUDCE ONE
SUPPLEMENT OR HERBAL PRODUCT, OR DIETARY CHANGE, AT A TIME, AND TEST IT
OUT FOR TOLERANCE FOR 4 TO 5 DAYS BEFORE MAKING ADDITIONAL CHANGES. IN
THIS WAY IT IS EASIER TO IDENTIFY PROBLEM INTOLERANCES AND STOP THEM
QUICKLY RATHER THAN TRYING TO GUESS WHICH OF A HANDUL OF SUBSTANCES IS
PRODUCING NEGATIVE EFFECTS.
ANOTHER IMPORTANT ISSUE IS TO REALISE THAT NOT ALL 'REACTIONS' OR SYMPTOMS
ARE NECESSARILY NEGATIVE. THE SIMPLEST EXAMPLE WHICH COMES TO MIND IS
HERXHEIMER'S REWACTION - WHEN FOR EXAMPLE A YEAST OVERGROWTH IS TREATED
AND THE LIVER IS REQUIRED TO PROCESS A GREAT DEAL OF DEAD YEAST, THE
INDIVIDUAL MAY FEEL MORE ILL THAN PREVIOUSLY FOR A WEEK OR SO. IF THIS IS
ANTICIPATED AND IS SEEN AS SOMETHING TO BE 'PUT UP WITH', THE PROCESS OF
CONTROLLING THE YEAST IS NOT INTERRRUPTED...HOWEVER IF IT IS STOPPED
BECAUSE OF THE RELATIVELY UNPLEASANT SYMPTOMS THIS POSSIBLY KEY PROBLEM
WILL NOT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
HOWEVER,IF A SUBSTANCE SUCH AS MALIC ACID IS NOT WELL TOLERATED THEN WE
DROP IT FOR THE TIME BEING. NO SINGLE NUTRIENT OR HERBAL PRODUCT IS
CRITICAL TO A GENERAL PROGRAMME WHICH IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THE AIMS I
SET OUT IN THE PROTOCOL. AND IF ALMOST ALL SUPPLEMMENTS ARE 'REAC TED' TO,
THEN LESS DIRECT AND MORE GENERA APPROACHS ARE CALLED FOR, DIETARY
STRATEGIES PLUS PERIODIC SHORT FASTING BEING ONE POSSIBLE MEANS OF
ENCOURAGING A HEALTHIER BOWEL AND LIVER, FOR EXAMPLE.
Leon Chaitow ND DO
Senior Lecturer,
CCCPH, University of Westminster
115, New Cavendish Street
London W1M 8JS
To: cfs-fms@holisticmed.com
From: Angls4Hope@aol.com
Subject: Re: CFS/FMS: Visiting Expert Presentation
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:59:01 EDT
In a message dated 07/31/2000 11:08:13 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
leon@bodymove.demon.co.uk writes:
> Biochemical : features may involve thyroid dysfunction, chronic viral or
> yeast infection, food/chemicle intolerances allergies....and others
> Biomechanical : features may involve respiratory imbalance
> (hyperventilation), whiplash injury, widespread myofacial trigger points
> activity
ACCCKKkkkkkk....well two out of three for me. Thank you so much for the
wonderful presentation. I'm looking forward to more. I have Systemic Lupus,
Fibromyalgia, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Chronic Candida, Thyroid disease and a
host of other things. Thanks to my wonderful Homeopathic MD, Dr. A. Ber,
M.D. in Scottsdale Arizona I'm alive and kicking and in a great remission
(unless I cheat with the wrong foods and do too much)....Of course, having a
trashed immune system I tend to pick up a lot of junk, but that is few and
far between because of the vitamins, herbs and remedies I take.
One quick question......do you have information for HepC patients with
Fibromyalgia??
Thank you again for a very informative presentation....can't wait to hear
more. Thank you Mark for all you do. Keep a smile on your face, love in
your heart and walk with the angels, holding hands in the "chain of love".....
Angel Huggzz
Linda or Angel
Angls4Hope@aol.com
To: cfs-fms@holisticmed.com
From: Leon Chaitow
Subject: Re: CFS/FMS: Visiting Expert Presentation
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:23:40 +0300
MY RESPONSES IN CAPITALS
>From: Angls4Hope@aol.com
>One quick question......do you have information for HepC patients with
>Fibromyalgia??
I HAVE NO SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FMS PATIENTS WITH HepC - THE
PRINCIPLES OUTLINED IN MY OPENING REMARKS AND PRESENTATION HOPEFULLY
SUGGEST THAT EACH PERSON AND CONDITION IS TREATED ACCORDING TO THEIR
NEEDS. THERE ARE MANY ALTERNATIVE/COMPLEMENTARY (AND STANDARD MEDICAL)
WAYS OF SUPPORTING THE LIVER, ENCOURAGING IMMUNE FUNCTION, AND PROVIDING
THE BODY WITH ADDITIONAL HELP VIA ANTIVIRAL AND ANTIBACTERIAL SUBSTANCES -
AND DEPENDING ON WHAT IS NEEDED IN ANY INDIVIDUAL SITUATION THESE CAN BE
SELECTED AND USED...AS I AM SURE (FROM WHAT YOU SAY) YOUR PRESENT HEALTH
CARE PROVIDER DOES
Leon Chaitow ND DO
Senior Lecturer,
CCCPH, University of Westminster
115, New Cavendish Street
London W1M 8JS